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Re: New RTX3xxx cards

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Glad to help!

@Joe_H

Thanks for the clarification.
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Re: New RTX3xxx cards

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Foxter wrote:I would add the pictures here but I cannot find the add attachment button, maybe this is restricted because I am a new member?
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Re: New RTX3xxx cards

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Foxter, thanks for that any reason power limit set to 70% or is this the setting to keep the temps under 80C?
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Re: New RTX3xxx cards

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@kiore

This is mainly to keep the video card cool, the electric bill low (24/7 folding only video card that eats 250W instead of around 330W) and as a secondary reason, to prevent any errors/keep the card functional and folding for a very long time.

When you have 4 x 2080 TI, 2 x 2080 Super, 4 x 2060 Super, 2 x 2060 and 2x 1660 TI, 1 x 1660 Super and now 1 x 3090,folding 24/7, the resulting heat and the electric bill matter a lot.

The 2080 TI are set to 70% power limit (170-180W), the 2080 Super / 2060 Super / 2060 are set to minimum power limit (125W) and the 1660 TIs / 1660 Super are set to minimum power limit ( 70-80W).

Also the power limit set to 100% for RTX 3090 only provides a minor boost in PPD (the same happens to 2080 TI).

Amusing fact: the RTX 3090 card has 28% minimum power limit, however it will downclock to even 240Hz to keep within that power limit.

I am curious if the 3080 has the same behavior as the 2080 Super, it can work at 125W when set to minimum power limit.
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Re: New RTX3xxx cards

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6M PPD. And that's on 75% of power envelope (1935Mhz), and probably not the most efficient WUs for such a large shader count GPU yet...
Still a little ways off of the 9-10M PPD I estimated of the GPU.
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Re: New RTX3xxx cards

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MeeLee wrote:6M PPD. And that's on 75% of power envelope (1935Mhz), and probably not the most efficient WUs for such a large shader count GPU yet...
Still a little ways off of the 9-10M PPD I estimated of the GPU.
Maybe you expected 10M PPD because you thought FP32 performance would be doubled in RTX 30X0 - but there are other factors which reduce real performance.
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Re: New RTX3xxx cards

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Foxter wrote:...I would add the pictures here but I cannot find the add attachment button, maybe this is restricted because I am a new member?...
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Re: New RTX3xxx cards

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foldy wrote:
MeeLee wrote:6M PPD. And that's on 75% of power envelope (1935Mhz), and probably not the most efficient WUs for such a large shader count GPU yet...
Still a little ways off of the 9-10M PPD I estimated of the GPU.
Maybe you expected 10M PPD because you thought FP32 performance would be doubled in RTX 30X0 - but there are other factors which reduce real performance.
I still think we haven't seen the 3090 unleash all it's fury.
We haven't even seen the 3080's max performance numbers yet.
The day is still early..
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Re: New RTX3xxx cards

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It looks like the latest rev. of the 2080ti still beats the 3080 at folding: https://folding.lar.systems/folding_dat ... pd_overall

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Re: New RTX3xxx cards

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I think it is a little bit early to tell.
I guess the number of 3080s which are folding might be only a few and some of them will run at 250W.
My 2080Ti Rev. A gets 4.3 Mill average @200W.
The 5.1 Mil up there might be at full power and with moonshot projects, otherwise I'd be a little bit surprised about hat number.
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Re: New RTX3xxx cards

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You have more details here: https://folding.lar.systems/folding_dat ... _a_m_13448
I just installed one of those (second hand) this morning and she's only done 3 WUs so far (stock), so I don't really know, but it does seem feasible.

EDIT: Especially if you choose the COVID-19 category. I'm on Any Disease, and you may be, too?
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Re: New RTX3xxx cards

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I'm at COVID-19.
I just tried full power (366W) at proj 17305.
They say it should be 5.6 Mill - I get 5.3 Mill with my watercooled 2080Ti Rev A.
With 200W I get 4.8 Mill, means, full power is a waste of energy for me.
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Re: New RTX3xxx cards

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This is stock, air cooled (closed case), on mine:

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Re: New RTX3xxx cards

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What says nvidia-smi in the command line?
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Re: New RTX3xxx cards

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Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.19041.508]
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C:\WINDOWS\system32>nvidia-smi
Fri Oct 09 12:55:24 2020
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| NVIDIA-SMI 456.38       Driver Version: 456.38       CUDA Version: 11.1     |
|-------------------------------+----------------------+----------------------+
| GPU  Name            TCC/WDDM | Bus-Id        Disp.A | Volatile Uncorr. ECC |
| Fan  Temp  Perf  Pwr:Usage/Cap|         Memory-Usage | GPU-Util  Compute M. |
|===============================+======================+======================|
|   0  GeForce RTX 208... WDDM  | 00000000:65:00.0  On |                  N/A |
| 58%   69C    P2   255W / 260W |    833MiB / 11264MiB |     94%      Default |
+-------------------------------+----------------------+----------------------+

+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Processes:                                                                  |
|  GPU   GI   CI        PID   Type   Process name                  GPU Memory |
|        ID   ID                                                   Usage      |
|=============================================================================|
|    0   N/A  N/A      1404    C+G   Insufficient Permissions        N/A      |
|    0   N/A  N/A      6180      C   ...ore_22.fah\FahCore_22.exe    N/A      |
|    0   N/A  N/A      7800    C+G   Insufficient Permissions        N/A      |
|    0   N/A  N/A      8220    C+G   Insufficient Permissions        N/A      |
|    0   N/A  N/A      8788    C+G   ...nputApp\TextInputHost.exe    N/A      |
|    0   N/A  N/A      9364    C+G   ...bbwe\Microsoft.Photos.exe    N/A      |
|    0   N/A  N/A      9664    C+G   ...5n1h2txyewy\SearchApp.exe    N/A      |
|    0   N/A  N/A     10072    C+G   ...artMenuExperienceHost.exe    N/A      |
|    0   N/A  N/A     11196    C+G   ...b3d8bbwe\WinStore.App.exe    N/A      |
|    0   N/A  N/A     15276    C+G   Insufficient Permissions        N/A      |
|    0   N/A  N/A     17168    C+G   ...me\Application\chrome.exe    N/A      |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+

C:\WINDOWS\system32>
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