Hardware PPD list

A forum for discussing FAH-related hardware choices and info on actual products (not speculation).

Moderator: Site Moderators

Forum rules
Please read the forum rules before posting.
Joe_H
Site Admin
Posts: 7929
Joined: Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:41 pm
Hardware configuration: Mac Pro 2.8 quad 12 GB smp4
MacBook Pro 2.9 i7 8 GB smp2
Location: W. MA

Re: Hardware PPD list

Post by Joe_H »

Jejking wrote:Soooo... any news on AMD hardware like RX 5600/5700?
No one has posted device ID information to add these to the GPUs.txt file yet. In addition a revised Core_22 folding core was just released last month that included software support for the Navi based AMD cards. Testing for them is still in beta, some people have reported on results using the 5700 XT.
Image

iMac 2.8 i7 12 GB smp8, Mac Pro 2.8 quad 12 GB smp6
MacBook Pro 2.9 i7 8 GB smp3
Artemios
Posts: 39
Joined: Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:39 pm
Location: Athens, Greece

Re: Hardware PPD list

Post by Artemios »

AMD RX 5700 XT running Core_22 beta projects 11738 & 11739 have an average PPD of 1.2M to 1.4M (not overclocked and power set to -15%)
Above running under Windows 10
(CPU=AMD 2700x) (GPU=2X RX 5700XT) (OS= win10)(client type=beta)
Image
toTOW
Site Moderator
Posts: 6349
Joined: Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:38 am
Location: Bordeaux, France
Contact:

Re: Hardware PPD list

Post by toTOW »

Joe_H wrote:
Jejking wrote:Soooo... any news on AMD hardware like RX 5600/5700?
No one has posted device ID information to add these to the GPUs.txt file yet. In addition a revised Core_22 folding core was just released last month that included software support for the Navi based AMD cards. Testing for them is still in beta, some people have reported on results using the 5700 XT.
I updated the list of supported Navi GPUs : viewtopic.php?p=310778#p310778
Image

Folding@Home beta tester since 2002. Folding Forum moderator since July 2008.
MeeLee
Posts: 1339
Joined: Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:16 pm

Re: Hardware PPD list

Post by MeeLee »

Artemios wrote:AMD RX 5700 XT running Core_22 beta projects 11738 & 11739 have an average PPD of 1.2M to 1.4M (not overclocked and power set to -15%)
Above running under Windows 10
What are the thermals and power consumption numbers this GPU is running at?
On NVidia GPUs, it appears that high temperatures are the main performance bottleneck.
bruce
Posts: 20824
Joined: Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:13 pm
Location: So. Cal.

Re: Hardware PPD list

Post by bruce »

When you publish your spreadsheet for hardware PPD, please remember that FAH officially does not support overclocking. You may be interested in overclocking and what kind of settings may be applied to a GPU, but that's NOT a function that readers of this forum need for basic support. If you're suggesting that a out-of-the-box setting on your GPU is observed to be unstable, then by all means report it. If you're suggesting that your fan does not properly cool a non-overclocked GPU, the by all means, report it.

If you're trying to increase your PPD, then go elsewhere to discuss it. Any "performance bottleneck" should have been properly taken into account by the manufacturer who sold you the GPU.

The objective here is to obtain stable performance and you're welcome to report (ONLY) the non-overclocked PPD in your spreadsheet, not the maximum that you might be able to obtain with additional tweaking. There are many team-sites which make that a priority, and you're welcome to join any one of those teams to learn more.

Please read and adhere to our Forum Policies.
Artemios
Posts: 39
Joined: Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:39 pm
Location: Athens, Greece

Re: Hardware PPD list

Post by Artemios »

What are the thermals and power consumption numbers this GPU is running at?
I have the Sapphire RX 5700XT Pulse running under Windows 10.
At stock settings it consumes around 180-190 Watts and the temperature is stable at around 76C (Junction Temp 90C) - the fan works at around 40%
In order to reduce the fan noise (not much noise but my PC is at the living room) I have the power setting at -15% which results in 160-170 Watts consumption, temp at 74C and the fan at 25%
This means that I have some reduced performance which I have not calculated but believe to be around 5%-10% from some rough estimates of the TPF difference between the two settings. It would be nice to get some feedback from other users with the same card.
(CPU=AMD 2700x) (GPU=2X RX 5700XT) (OS= win10)(client type=beta)
Image
BeaZtiE
Posts: 2
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:09 pm

Re: Hardware PPD list

Post by BeaZtiE »

What about Quadro.. i have (FEW) RTX 4000
QuintLeo
Posts: 51
Joined: Sat Jun 17, 2017 5:43 am

Re: Hardware PPD list

Post by QuintLeo »

The linked "hardware PPD" list is a bit optimistic, unless you are going to push your card HARD.
80% of those numbers is more of a good ballpark figure if you are running your cards for longevity.

I wouldn't bother with anything Nvidia older/lower than the GTX 1060, or anything AMD other than Vega models and the RX5700, unless you already HAVE the GPU.
Too low of production compared to current cards to be worth putting money into them just for Folding.

The 2080ti is a ton faster than the 2080 because it has a TON more cores to work with - same reason the 1080ti was a TON faster than the 1080.
Not quite double the cores in each case, but more than half again.
MrFrizzy
Posts: 123
Joined: Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:48 am

Re: Hardware PPD list

Post by MrFrizzy »

I have been tracking every successful project that I have completed with my 5700 XT. Recently, I started playing around with the clocks to find out various points of efficiency. I have only been back to folding for a few weeks now and haven't gotten far in that efficiency testing, but here is the spreadsheet I have been using to track everything: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... ingle=true

Depending on the project and the frequency I am running the card at, I get anywhere from 900K to 1.4M points per day (taking into account download and upload delays). When overclocked to 2100MHz, the huge 11738 beta project has shown the highest PPD average at nearly 1.4M PPD though there are plenty of the smaller COVID-19 projects that are scoring near 1.2M PPD. When underclocked to 1700MHz, I have yet to see a true PPD over 1M.
Last edited by MrFrizzy on Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:22 pm, edited 1 time in total.
S1: AMD R5 3600 & Sapphire RX 5700 XT Reference @2.1GHz under water
S2: Intel Xeon E5-2620v3 & MSI GTX 1650

RX 5700 XT Project & PPD Tracking Spreadsheet

Image
bruce
Posts: 20824
Joined: Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:13 pm
Location: So. Cal.

Re: Hardware PPD list

Post by bruce »

QuintLeo wrote: I wouldn't bother with anything Nvidia older/lower than the GTX 1060, or ... unless you already HAVE the GPU.
Too low of production compared to current cards to be worth putting money into them just for Folding.
I'm still running some older nV hardware (that I already have). A lot depends on your costs for electricity
The ones that just keep producing are the Ti models.
TheMikeyDK
Posts: 13
Joined: Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:21 pm

Re: Hardware PPD list

Post by TheMikeyDK »

If interested in adding it to the list, I got a little Nvidia Quadro P400, it sits at an estimated 25600-25700 ppd
Luscious
Posts: 49
Joined: Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:38 am

Re: Hardware PPD list

Post by Luscious »

Anybody rocking a RTX Titan want to chime in with some PPD numbers? Should be around 2.8 to 3M given the extra cores compared to a 2080 Ti.
durval
Posts: 15
Joined: Sun Apr 12, 2020 12:27 am

Re: Hardware PPD list

Post by durval »

Hello,

I have a Quadro P5000 on my HP ZBook 17 G4. Running on Linux Ubuntu 18.04 with the FAHCore_x22 client, I get around 530K PPD, all default (no overclocking, no power-limiting, etc).

Depending on how warm the weather is, I have to put a table fan blowing directly on top of the machine, or else the laptop starts heat-limiting the CPU after a few hours (yes, using the GPU intensely makes the CPU temperature go up too -- appreciably more than just what 1 CPU core being used at 100% would).

Cheers,
-- Durval.
BobWilliams757
Posts: 515
Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:22 pm
Hardware configuration: ASRock X370M PRO4
Ryzen 2400G APU
16 GB DDR4-3200
MSI GTX 1660 Super Gaming X

Re: Hardware PPD list

Post by BobWilliams757 »

There is a current thread seeking logs from HFM so that an accurate database of the current hardware can be made. Since there seems to have been a PPD improvement from CORE_21 to CORE_22 projects, that is also noted. Since it's based on currently active users on the forum, it might also be a better way for people seeking specifics of brand, clocks, voltages, etc.

viewtopic.php?f=38&t=34510
Fold them if you get them!
durval
Posts: 15
Joined: Sun Apr 12, 2020 12:27 am

Re: Hardware PPD list

Post by durval »

Thanks @BobWilliams757, reposting there.
Post Reply