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Recent Boost in F@H Output?
Posted: Thu May 29, 2014 6:57 pm
by Kurtis200200
I gathered some numbers from
DC-stats, and it appears that, since May 11th, F@H output has increased ~30%. See
PDF for spreadsheet.
Could this apparent boost be due to the launch of CureCoin around May 11th, or are the statistics too fuzzy to make that kind of conclusion?
edit: fixed broken pdf link
Re: Recent Boost in F@H Output?
Posted: Thu May 29, 2014 7:01 pm
by bruce
The cause-and-effect conclusions are always a bit fuzzy, but compare the stats for the CureCoin team with the totals and draw your own conclusions.
Re: Recent Boost in F@H Output?
Posted: Thu May 29, 2014 7:12 pm
by Jesse_V
bruce wrote:The cause-and-effect conclusions are always a bit fuzzy, but compare the stats for the CureCoin team with the totals and draw your own conclusions.
Curecoin PPD:
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/ ... =&t=224497
Could be coincidence, but I suspect that there's a correlation/causation.
Re: Recent Boost in F@H Output?
Posted: Thu May 29, 2014 7:59 pm
by PantherX
Before the CureCoin was launched, this was the data from the Client statistics by OS page (04 May IIRC):
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OS Type Native TFLOPS* x86 TFLOPS* Active CPUs Active Cores Total CPUs
Windows 742 742 170529 296855 5420657
Mac OS X 20 20 7421 49142 160929
Linux 35 35 11433 19938 764867
ATI GPU 842 1777 5933 5933 369038
NVIDIA GPU 2410 5085 12753 12753 313536
NVIDIA Fermi GPU 17209 36311 50763 147926 390862
Total 21258 43970 258832 532547 7419889
This is what it currently reports:
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OS Type Native TFLOPS* x86 TFLOPS* Active CPUs Active Cores Total CPUs
Windows 603 603 138661 230997 5440504
Mac OS X 22 22 8036 61685 162035
Linux 36 36 11694 21481 766733
ATI GPU 1658 3498 11676 11676 375783
NVIDIA GPU 2299 4851 12166 12166 315431
NVIDIA Fermi GPU 17091 36062 50417 158629 399068
Total 21709 45072 232650 496634 7459554
Sorry that the data isn't formatted into a pretty table since time is against me.
Re: Recent Boost in F@H Output?
Posted: Thu May 29, 2014 8:04 pm
by 7im
Jesse_V wrote:bruce wrote:The cause-and-effect conclusions are always a bit fuzzy, but compare the stats for the CureCoin team with the totals and draw your own conclusions.
Curecoin PPD:
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/ ... =&t=224497
Could be coincidence, but I suspect that there's a correlation/causation.
No way to tell how much is purely new CureCoin donors, and how many donors were pulled from other teams.
Re: Recent Boost in F@H Output?
Posted: Thu May 29, 2014 8:55 pm
by SodaAnt
7im wrote:Jesse_V wrote:bruce wrote:The cause-and-effect conclusions are always a bit fuzzy, but compare the stats for the CureCoin team with the totals and draw your own conclusions.
Curecoin PPD:
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/ ... =&t=224497
Could be coincidence, but I suspect that there's a correlation/causation.
No way to tell how much is purely new CureCoin donors, and how many donors were pulled from other teams.
It would require a closer look at the data, but I'd suspect most people that moved to curecoin are using a previous name used for folding, versus new people are using a name that hasn't appeared or hasn't folded much before.
Re: Recent Boost in F@H Output?
Posted: Thu May 29, 2014 9:22 pm
by 7im
Unless you looked at each donor name on the CureCoin team to see if they had 2 fah teams listed, that data is not exposed at a level that anyone but PG could "take a closer look" at with any level of ease.
So while there IS a way that is very manually intensive, nobody is likely to do that. End result is the same.
Might be interesting to look at a few of the top donors on that team though.
Re: Recent Boost in F@H Output?
Posted: Thu May 29, 2014 9:49 pm
by Jesse_V
Many of the top donors hang out in #curecoin, and I've heard a good number of reports of people switching over to F@h from mining to folding, or firing up high-end machines or massive cloud instances specifically for Curecoin, bringing them over a million PPD in some cases. 7im is right though, without a deeper inspection it's all speculation, but based on what I've read there's a chunk of that performance that actually is new to F@h.
Re: Recent Boost in F@H Output?
Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 12:31 am
by jrweiss
What difference does it make? Obviously there has been an upsurge in Folding.
It doesn't make ANY difference at all to the project what team any particular Folder belongs to. The data posted by PantherX shows a significant boost in the number of cores Folding, so there has likely been a combination of people switching teams and people devoting new machines to Folding.
In either case, it is good for the project!
Re: Recent Boost in F@H Output?
Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 12:35 am
by 7im
What PX data are you reading? The active clients and the active cores went down. Flops went up, only a little.
Re: Recent Boost in F@H Output?
Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 8:12 am
by Kurtis200200
PantherX wrote:Before the CureCoin was launched, this was the data from the Client statistics by OS page (04 May IIRC):
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Sorry that the data isn't formatted into a pretty table since time is against me.
Unfortunately, snapshot core data isn't as robust as multiple core polling points over time, but it's a meaningful addition and I didn't think of checking the OS Stats page
, thanks PantherX
Re: Recent Boost in F@H Output?
Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 8:35 am
by bollix47
Does the information
here help?
Information prior to 11/28/2012 can be found
here.
Re: Recent Boost in F@H Output?
Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 6:45 pm
by k1wi
If PPD has increased while TFLOPS have stayed relatively constant, then one would assume that many less powerful clients leaving have been offset by the addition of fewer more powerful clients...