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I'm not sure if this is the right forum, so apologies if it isn't.

I've been assigned the following WU: p2611_POPE and it's broken down into 250 parts. My concern is that my rather ageing PC will not be able to complete the WU before its deadline on 8 March. I was assigned the WU on 27 January and it's a work PC that runs for approximately 40 hours a week, normally plenty of time. However since 27 January, my PC is still only on 12/250 and by the end of today I will be lucky if it hits 15.

So is there any way to switch WUs? Either that or does it not matter if a WU is submitted after its deadline?

PC spec: 768MB RAM
2.4GHz Celeron processor

Show your log.

My 2.0gHz c2d runs that wu in 20min/% on 1 core obviously.

Log is below. The PC is nearly always running Opera 10 (with anything from 5-15 tabs open at any one time), Outlook 2002 and Word 2002. I have the core operating at 100 per cent available capacity. It could just be a slow/dying PC, who knows.


[13:21:12] Protein: p2611_POPE
[13:21:12]
[13:21:12] Writing local files
[13:21:44] Extra SSE boost OK.
[13:21:46] Writing local files
[13:21:47] Completed 0 out of 250000 steps (0%)
[14:36:57] + Working...
[16:34:22] Opening C:\Documents and Settings\mikel.PSCA\Application Data\Folding@home-x86\MyFolding.html...


--- Opening Log file [January 28 08:38:18 UTC]


# Windows CPU Systray Edition #################################################
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Folding@Home Client Version 6.23

http://folding.stanford.edu

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Launch directory: C:\Documents and Settings\mikel.PSCA\Application Data\Folding@home-x86


[08:38:18] - Ask before connecting: No
[08:38:18] - User name: miccahotpants (Team 0)
[08:38:18] - User ID: 3F91DBD356883B42
[08:38:18] - Machine ID: 1
[08:38:18]
[08:38:19] Loaded queue successfully.
[08:38:19] Initialization complete
[08:38:19]
[08:38:19] + Processing work unit
[08:38:19] Core required: FahCore_78.exe
[08:38:19] Core found.
[08:38:20] Working on queue slot 04 [January 28 08:38:20 UTC]
[08:38:20] + Working ...
[08:38:22]
[08:38:22] *------------------------------*
[08:38:22] Folding@Home Gromacs Core
[08:38:22] Version 1.90 (March 8, 2006)
[08:38:22]
[08:38:22] Preparing to commence simulation
[08:38:22] - Looking at optimizations...
[08:38:22] - Files status OK
[08:38:47] - Expanded 3895839 -> 20813811 (decompressed 534.2 percent)
[08:38:52]
[08:38:52] Project: 2611 (Run 1, Clone 851, Gen 164)
[08:38:52]
[08:39:03] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[08:39:03] Entering M.D.
[08:39:43] (Starting from checkpoint)
[08:39:43] Protein: p2611_POPE
[08:39:43]
[08:39:44] Writing local files
[08:39:45] Completed 1622 out of 250000 steps (1%)
[08:40:02] Extra SSE boost OK.
[09:41:34] Writing local files
[09:41:38] Completed 2500 out of 250000 steps (1%)
[10:06:36] Opening C:\Documents and Settings\mikel.PSCA\Application Data\Folding@home-x86\MyFolding.html...
[14:24:36] Writing local files
[14:24:38] Completed 5000 out of 250000 steps (2%)
[14:37:47] + Working...


--- Opening Log file [January 29 08:25:40 UTC]


# Windows CPU Systray Edition #################################################
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Folding@Home Client Version 6.23

http://folding.stanford.edu

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Launch directory: C:\Documents and Settings\mikel.PSCA\Application Data\Folding@home-x86


[08:25:41] - Ask before connecting: No
[08:25:41] - User name: miccahotpants (Team 0)
[08:25:41] - User ID: 3F91DBD356883B42
[08:25:41] - Machine ID: 1
[08:25:41]
[08:25:41] Loaded queue successfully.
[08:25:41] Initialization complete
[08:25:41]
[08:25:41] + Processing work unit
[08:25:42] Core required: FahCore_78.exe
[08:25:42] Core found.
[08:25:42] Working on queue slot 04 [January 29 08:25:42 UTC]
[08:25:42] + Working ...
[08:25:44]
[08:25:44] *------------------------------*
[08:25:44] Folding@Home Gromacs Core
[08:25:44] Version 1.90 (March 8, 2006)
[08:25:44]
[08:25:44] Preparing to commence simulation
[08:25:44] - Looking at optimizations...
[08:25:45] - Files status OK
[08:26:11] - Expanded 3895839 -> 20813811 (decompressed 534.2 percent)
[08:26:16]
[08:26:16] Project: 2611 (Run 1, Clone 851, Gen 164)
[08:26:16]
[08:26:24] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[08:26:24] Entering M.D.
[08:26:59] (Starting from checkpoint)
[08:26:59] Protein: p2611_POPE
[08:26:59]
[08:26:59] Writing local files
[08:26:59] Completed 6571 out of 250000 steps (3%)
[08:27:20] Extra SSE boost OK.
[09:39:00] Writing local files
[09:39:05] Completed 7500 out of 250000 steps (3%)
[13:31:01] Writing local files
[13:31:03] Completed 10000 out of 250000 steps (4%)
[14:25:11] + Working...


--- Opening Log file [February 2 08:32:18 UTC]


# Windows CPU Systray Edition #################################################
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Folding@Home Client Version 6.23

http://folding.stanford.edu

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Launch directory: C:\Documents and Settings\mikel.PSCA\Application Data\Folding@home-x86


[08:32:18] - Ask before connecting: No
[08:32:18] - User name: miccahotpants (Team 0)
[08:32:18] - User ID: 3F91DBD356883B42
[08:32:18] - Machine ID: 1
[08:32:18]
[08:32:19] Loaded queue successfully.
[08:32:19] Initialization complete
[08:32:19]
[08:32:19] + Processing work unit
[08:32:19] Core required: FahCore_78.exe
[08:32:19] Core found.
[08:32:20] Working on queue slot 04 [February 2 08:32:20 UTC]
[08:32:20] + Working ...
[08:32:21]
[08:32:21] *------------------------------*
[08:32:21] Folding@Home Gromacs Core
[08:32:21] Version 1.90 (March 8, 2006)
[08:32:21]
[08:32:21] Preparing to commence simulation
[08:32:21] - Looking at optimizations...
[08:32:22] - Files status OK
[08:32:50] - Expanded 3895839 -> 20813811 (decompressed 534.2 percent)
[08:32:54]
[08:32:54] Project: 2611 (Run 1, Clone 851, Gen 164)
[08:32:54]
[08:32:57] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[08:32:57] Entering M.D.
[08:33:25] (Starting from checkpoint)
[08:33:25] Protein: p2611_POPE
[08:33:25]
[08:33:25] Writing local files
[08:33:29] Completed 12220 out of 250000 steps (5%)
[08:34:03] Extra SSE boost OK.
[08:55:16] Writing local files
[08:55:19] Completed 12500 out of 250000 steps (5%)
[14:10:06] Opening http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/mai ... hotpants...
[14:31:53] + Working...
[16:04:44] Writing local files
[16:04:46] Completed 15000 out of 250000 steps (6%)

Just to be clear though, it's done other WUs quite comfortably in the past, last bit of log I have from last WU below for example:
[08:38:10] Protein: p6316_sh3_with_ALA_frags
[08:38:10]
[08:38:10] Writing local files
[08:38:15] Completed 486886 out of 500000 steps (97%)
[08:38:16] Extra SSE boost OK.
[09:16:54] Writing local files
[09:16:54] Completed 490000 out of 500000 steps (98%)
[11:28:57] Writing local files
[11:28:57] Completed 495000 out of 500000 steps (99%)
[13:16:58] Writing local files
[13:16:59] Completed 500000 out of 500000 steps (100%)
[13:16:59] Writing final coordinates.
[13:16:59] Past main M.D. loop

2611 is a big unit.. Your celeron a single core?

As it's very consistent, this just seems how your cpu deals with it...... slowly.

Not sure what to tell you, other than suffer through it, and dream of a fast one next time.. The units gonnA sit in fah records till after the deadline then reassigned anyway.

miccahotpants wrote:Just to be clear though, it's done other WUs quite comfortably in the past, last bit of log I have from last WU below for example:
[08:38:10] Protein: p6316_sh3_with_ALA_frags
[08:38:10]
[08:38:10] Writing local files
[08:38:15] Completed 486886 out of 500000 steps (97%)
[08:38:16] Extra SSE boost OK.
[09:16:54] Writing local files
[09:16:54] Completed 490000 out of 500000 steps (98%)
[11:28:57] Writing local files
[11:28:57] Completed 495000 out of 500000 steps (99%)
[13:16:58] Writing local files
[13:16:59] Completed 500000 out of 500000 steps (100%)
[13:16:59] Writing final coordinates.
[13:16:59] Past main M.D. loop

what is your processor's usage when you quit your F@H client? it seems to me that other software you are running uses more than 50% of its performance.i suspect opera requires the most of it. (not sure)

this is result of Celeron 2000MHz, overclocked to 2475MHz for the same project:

also try to set checkpointing frequency to lower time ( work saving interval) it may save you some minutes when you start client and continue folding from what was last saved.

[07:14:46] Protein: p6316_sh3_with_ALA_frags
[07:14:46]
[07:14:47] Writing local files
[07:14:47] Completed 435000 out of 500000 steps (87%)
[07:14:47] Extra SSE boost OK.
[07:45:00] Writing local files
[07:45:00] Completed 440000 out of 500000 steps (88%)
[08:14:56] Writing local files
[08:14:56] Completed 445000 out of 500000 steps (89%)
[08:45:04] Writing local files
[08:45:04] Completed 450000 out of 500000 steps (90%)
[09:14:58] Writing local files
[09:14:58] Completed 455000 out of 500000 steps (91%)
[09:44:38] Writing local files
[09:44:38] Completed 460000 out of 500000 steps (92%)
[10:14:13] Writing local files
[10:14:13] Completed 465000 out of 500000 steps (93%)
[10:44:02] Writing local files
[10:44:02] Completed 470000 out of 500000 steps (94%)
[11:14:03] Writing local files
[11:14:03] Completed 475000 out of 500000 steps (95%)
[11:44:13] Writing local files
[11:44:13] Completed 480000 out of 500000 steps (96%)
[12:15:37] Writing local files
[12:15:37] Completed 485000 out of 500000 steps (97%)
[12:56:44] Writing local files
[12:56:44] Completed 490000 out of 500000 steps (98%)
[13:14:12] + Working...
[13:33:15] Writing local files
[13:33:15] Completed 495000 out of 500000 steps (99%)
[14:07:05] Writing local files
[14:07:05] Completed 500000 out of 500000 steps (100%)
[14:07:06] Writing final coordinates.
[14:07:06] Past main M.D. loop
[14:08:06]
[14:08:06] Finished Work Unit:

So does that mean the results will not be used or they will? Just seems a waste of time doing the WU if it's going to take so long and then not be used anyway. And if it's not going to be used, is there a way to get the WU changed?

miccahotpants wrote:So does that mean the results will not be used or they will? Just seems a waste of time doing the WU if it's going to take so long and then not be used anyway. And if it's not going to be used, is there a way to get the WU changed?

Not yet, but someday Pande Group will jump 237 light years and figure out how to give each class of WU, beit GPU or CPU to the HW that can best fold it> AHHH for the future of the Science

shdbcamping wrote: Not yet, but someday Pande Group will jump 237 light years and figure out how to give each class of WU, beit GPU or CPU to the HW that can best fold it> AHHH for the future of the Science

I sure hope you don't have to wait 237 light years.
In the good old days it used to be that my quad machines used to get their a2 wu's from 171.67.108.24, and the duos get their a2 wu's from the 171.64.65.56.
If the 171.67.108.24 wasn't available it switched down to 171.64.65.56 and still got a2 unit (same point value but slightly longer duration).
The problem was only when even the 171.64.65.56 wasn't available, and it switched down to the 171.64.65.64 which had only a1 wu's using my machines at 50%

miccahotpants wrote:So does that mean the results will not be used or they will? Just seems a waste of time doing the WU if it's going to take so long and then not be used anyway. And if it's not going to be used, is there a way to get the WU changed?

If a WU is returned before the Preferred Deadline, it will certainly be used because only one person is working on it. After the Preferred Deadline expires, it is reissued. At that point but before the final deadline, either person (or both) may return it for credit.

There is a subtle difference between the points credit and the scientific credit. The scientific project will move forward whenever the first result is returned even if more than one person gets points. As an individual, you have no way of knowing if they're still waiting for your result or if somebody else has returned it. Of course the project tries to minimize these duplicate results, but they do need all results to be returned and the have to make some assumption about when a particular WU is lost, even if it's just delayed.