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Re: PPD Database - HFM exports needed

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 2:50 pm
by foldinghomealone
New updates for:
RX Vega 11

RX Vega 64
RX 580
RX 570
GTX 1050
RX 460
i7-6700HQ @7t
i5-8400
Xeon E5649 @18t

Thanks to:
BobWilliams757
almcdsmi
AOD_N3URAL

Re: PPD Database - HFM exports needed

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:05 pm
by foldinghomealone
MeeLee wrote:It's going to be tough to create such a PPD list.
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Core 22 can vary wildly depending on the project you get assigned.
For instance, I have been able to run a 2080Ti at 4.4M PPD in Linux on core 22, but in other projects it maxed out at only 3.6M PPD.
Core 21 is a much better benchmarking or reference tool, as most of the data is established.
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Aside from differences in cooling solutions (blower type vs open 1 fan, vs open 2 fan , vs open 3 fan), there's operating system (Win vs Linux vs VM), slot speed (pcie 2.0 vs 3.0 vs 4.0, @ x4, x8 or x16), overclocked vs stock, with or without power capped; and most limiting factor of all temps (closed case vs open bench, ambient temps), that can all affect performance by more than 10%!

With newer models being introduced in the next month the list would be extremely extensive, and trusting data from people that could say whatever they want (bump a few extra PPDs just for the fun of it).
Basically I can agree with all your statements.
However keep in mind that most Core21 projects are finished and therefore it is useless to rely on their numbers.
Additionally, for sure there are performance differences because of different specific system configurations including silicone lottery.
And it's possible that users upload fake numbers for their prestige.
But to counteract both effects I would wish to build this database on different system configurations from different users.
Therefore I ask you to upload your HFM exports to help build this database as accurate as possible.

For most people the average PPD are good enough as you can see in tab 'PPD summary'.
For those who wish further analysis there are the following tabs:
- PPD sum=f(core) to see average PPD differences in cores
- PPD=f(project) to see average PPD in different projects
- TPF=f(project) to see average TPF in different projects

If you have questions, just ask

Re: PPD Database - HFM exports needed

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:25 pm
by foldinghomealone
Thanks to NormalDiffusion. We have new updates for
Titan Xp
Radeon VII
GTX 1650Super
GTX 1050Ti
GTX 960
GTX 750
R9 3900X
i9-7900X
i7-6700
i7-4770
Xeon E5-1650v4
Xeon E5-2690
Xeon E5-1620v4

Re: PPD Database - HFM exports needed

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:08 pm
by Kebast
Sadly the two most interesting GPUs to me are still missing. Would love to see data for RTX 2060 and RTX 2070

Re: PPD Database - HFM exports needed

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:29 pm
by NormalDiffusion
Kebast wrote:Sadly the two most interesting GPUs to me are still missing. Would love to see data for RTX 2060 and RTX 2070
Same here! Would also love to see values for 2060 ko and 1660 super...

Re: PPD Database - HFM exports needed

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:33 pm
by Endgame124
NormalDiffusion wrote:
Kebast wrote:Sadly the two most interesting GPUs to me are still missing. Would love to see data for RTX 2060 and RTX 2070
Same here! Would also love to see values for 2060 ko and 1660 super...
I'll have some results uploaded for the 1660 super (mine is at -250 memory, stock evga boost) uploaded maybe tonight? I was running all CPUs with Rosetta processes during the WU shortage and forgot to reserve one CPU for F@H. Last night I looked at my HFM numbers and said "that can't be right", freed up a CPU, and now picked up like 200k ppd. Perhaps it would be best if I just stopped Rosetta for the day and made sure there were no CPU impacts on folding for the most fair results?

Re: PPD Database - HFM exports needed

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:40 pm
by foldinghomealone
@Endgame124: Please upload results. We're all very interested.
However, as you mentioned, it would be best if you could make sure that you have one CPU slot reserved for the GPU and that the GPU runs with as normal parameters as possible to make it comparable.

Re: PPD Database - HFM exports needed

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:52 pm
by foldinghomealone
Thank you spongebob25
We have updates for
i7-3770k
RTX 2080 OC

Re: PPD Database - HFM exports needed

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:43 pm
by NormalDiffusion
Endgame124 wrote:
I'll have some results uploaded for the 1660 super (mine is at -250 memory, stock evga boost) uploaded maybe tonight? I was running all CPUs with Rosetta processes during the WU shortage and forgot to reserve one CPU for F@H. Last night I looked at my HFM numbers and said "that can't be right", freed up a CPU, and now picked up like 200k ppd. Perhaps it would be best if I just stopped Rosetta for the day and made sure there were no CPU impacts on folding for the most fair results?
That would be great as I'm thinking about getting one in the next days!

Re: PPD Database - HFM exports needed

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 1:07 pm
by Endgame124
1660 Super data uploaded (I think).

The data set isn't amazing - it seems to have gotten a similar batch of low scoring work for most of the WUs, so similar scores for all but the last WU (around 680ppd). The last WU came in at 1.3M PPD, though, which is higher than I normally see (normally see more like 750-800k)

Re: PPD Database - HFM exports needed

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 1:10 pm
by Endgame124
Oh, and I'm not having any luck with getting remote monitoring of slot working. Is there any truly valuable data to be seen from seeing 80k ppd from a AMD R250X, or 30k ppd from the integrated R7 video in a A10-7870K?

Re: PPD Database - HFM exports needed

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:06 pm
by foldinghomealone
New data uploaded for
RX 5700 XT
GTX 1660 Ti
GTX 1660 Super
RX Vega 64
RX 590
RX 580
R7 3700X
R5 2600
i5-8400
Xeon E5649 @18t

Thanks to
AOD_N3URAL
NoMoreQuarantine
Endgame
Artemios

Re: PPD Database - HFM exports needed

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:13 pm
by HaloJones
You could merge the results for the "RX 5700XT" and the "RX 5700 XT"

Re: PPD Database - HFM exports needed

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:28 pm
by Endgame124
If I can figure out remote management, I can provide folding scores for:

APU (both CPU and integrated video)
A10-5800K
A10-7870K

Cpu:
Ryzen 7 2700X

GPU
R250X
Geforce 1080ti.

Is any compelling reason for me to collect any of those? If so, which ones?

Re: PPD Database - HFM exports needed

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:30 pm
by foldinghomealone
I think 1080ti and R7 2700X are commonly used but under represented in the DB.
I would be happy to see some more data