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Re: Been trying to fold for years..
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:10 am
by 7im
Correct, on core_16 WUs, the last known good driver was v12.8. But if you want to be able to fold the higher point core_17 WUs you need 13.4 or 13.6 both of which work very well for folding.
If you also game then you need to balance what works for gaming with what works for fah. You're also selling v13.6 short, but don't take my word for it. Do you own research.
Re: Been trying to fold for years..
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:07 pm
by PantherX
NeoCzar wrote:...What's the problem with changing WUs?
If you mean that deleting the FahCore_16 WU and folding only FahCore_17 WUs, that is called cherry-picking and the problem with this behavior is that you will be slowing down the Project (since WUs are serial in nature) and possibly duplicating the WUs. Something that we strongly discourage.
However, if you want to stick with 13.4 due to other reasons, your best approach to F@H is to configure the GPU Slot for advanced since there are 3 FahCore_17 Projects so there is a much higher likelihood that your GPU will be assigned FahCore_17 WUs whenever it is requesting for one.
Re: Been trying to fold for years..
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:07 pm
by 7im
Cherry picking work units is also against the EULA and you risk getting your points zeroed out and your donor named closed so it can't download any new work.
Re: Been trying to fold for years..
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:18 pm
by bruce
NeoCzar wrote:What's the problem with changing WUs?
Every WU that's assigned needs to be completed and normally it's only assigned to one person. When that person discards it, the server will eventually decide the WU is lost and reissue it so someone else but only after waiting a reasonable amount of time. Add up all those "reasonable" amounts of time and it adds considerable delay to reaching the goals of the scientific study.
That's why 7im said it was a last resort -- something to be avoided if it can be.
Re: Been trying to fold for years..
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 5:45 am
by NeoCzar
Necromancy due to extreme annoyance:
Still not folding. Read somewhere on Overclock.net that the 13.9 drivers solved everything. Not so. Still can't fold, still stuck at 0.00% progress on the GPU. This is my umpteenth attempt and ends up in red hot anger.
Is there any way to fold with this junk glitchy software?
Re: Been trying to fold for years..
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 6:20 am
by 7im
NeoCzar wrote:Necromancy due to extreme annoyance:
Still not folding. Read somewhere on Overclock.net that the 13.9 drivers solved everything. Not so. Still can't fold, still stuck at 0.00% progress on the GPU. This is my umpteenth attempt and ends up in red hot anger.
Is there any way to fold with this junk glitchy software?
Works great for me. No glitches at all.
Works better with the right driver. Cat 14.1 folds much faster than previous versions. And we know it works. Many have posted as much.
If that still doesn't work, then it's your hardware, not the software.
It would also help to avoid such an annoyance if you let us help you troubleshoot the problem before it got this bad for you.
Re: Been trying to fold for years..
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:02 pm
by NeoCzar
Wait you're saying 7xxx mobility series have been working fine with no glitches for a while now? What is it that I have to do apart from Cat 14.1? I just want to double click something and for it to work fine, is that the case?
Give me information not opinion. I want this piece of junk to work and fold, that's why I bought flagship.
Re: Been trying to fold for years..
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:34 pm
by PantherX
We don't normally recommend Beta Drivers, however, in AMD's case, the latest Beta has brought some significant improvements for folding to a wide range of GPUs. Thus, if you are willing to test, I suggest that you get hold of V7.4.2 which is in Open Public Beta (viewtopic.php?f=94&t=25657) and give it a try after installing the latest AMD Beta Drivers (
http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-article ... -beta.aspx). Just make sure that the previous AMD Driver is fully uninstalled to ensure that there aren't any conflicts.
Re: Been trying to fold for years..
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:01 pm
by 7im
NeoCzar wrote:Wait you're saying 7xxx mobility series have been working fine with no glitches for a while now? What is it that I have to do apart from Cat 14.1? I just want to double click something and for it to work fine, is that the case?
Give me information not opinion. I want this piece of junk to work and fold, that's why I bought flagship.
I'm stating the fact that the fah client works well with most GPUs. It is not glitchy in general. But there are too many and varied makes and models to say it works well on ALL GPUs. Don't be silly.
Please tell us more detail about your setup and we can be more specific with our recommendations.
As always, posting the log would be a good first step.
Re: Been trying to fold for years..
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:18 am
by PinHead
My memories of 7.3.6 is that the GPU won't fold unless the power slider bar is run up towards the high setting. Haven't seen it mentioned in this thread, but something to check.
Re: Been trying to fold for years..
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:32 am
by 7im
PinHead wrote:My memories of 7.3.6 is that the GPU won't fold unless the power slider bar is run up towards the high setting. Haven't seen it mentioned in this thread, but something to check.
Not quite. Full folds full time. Other settings, like light, only fold when the system is idle. If the system is never idle, it never folds.
A log file would show us things like that. Please post one.
Re: Been trying to fold for years..
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:38 am
by Jesse_V
PinHead wrote:My memories of 7.3.6 is that the GPU won't fold unless the power slider bar is run up towards the high setting. Haven't seen it mentioned in this thread, but something to check.
That's because at lower settings it's waiting for the system to become idle. That's a countermeasure against lag caused by GPU folding.
Re: Been trying to fold for years..
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 2:08 am
by NeoCzar
Apparently the creator of
http://www.overclock.net/t/1323729/upda ... ql-drivers was right. I have 13.12 which is the last WHQL release, and after I had left the computer on overnight (on idle) I woke up the next morning to a folding machine! Afterburner confirmed that the usage was near 99% most of the time (ULPS off) and the temperatures were commensurate with the reported utilization. It was completing a work unit and was around 14% or so on the GPU front.
This is the log:
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*********************** Log Started 2014-02-28T01:21:56Z ***********************
01:21:56:************************* Folding@home Client *************************
01:21:56: Website: http://folding.stanford.edu/
01:21:56: Copyright: (c) 2009-2013 Stanford University
01:21:56: Author: Joseph Coffland <[email protected]>
01:21:56: Args: --open-web-control
01:21:56: Config: C:/Users/Wairangi/AppData/Roaming/FAHClient/config.xml
01:21:56:******************************** Build ********************************
01:21:56: Version: 7.3.6
01:21:56: Date: Feb 18 2013
01:21:56: Time: 15:25:17
01:21:56: SVN Rev: 3923
01:21:56: Branch: fah/trunk/client
01:21:56: Compiler: Intel(R) C++ MSVC 1500 mode 1200
01:21:56: Options: /TP /nologo /EHa /Qdiag-disable:4297,4103,1786,279 /Ox -arch:SSE
01:21:56: /QaxSSE2,SSE3,SSSE3,SSE4.1,SSE4.2 /Qopenmp /Qrestrict /MT /Qmkl
01:21:56: Platform: win32 XP
01:21:56: Bits: 32
01:21:56: Mode: Release
01:21:56:******************************* System ********************************
01:21:56: CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3610QM CPU @ 2.30GHz
01:21:56: CPU ID: GenuineIntel Family 6 Model 58 Stepping 9
01:21:56: CPUs: 8
01:21:56: Memory: 15.90GiB
01:21:56: Free Memory: 13.60GiB
01:21:56: Threads: WINDOWS_THREADS
01:21:56: Has Battery: true
01:21:56: On Battery: false
01:21:56: UTC offset: 3
01:21:56: PID: 184
01:21:56: CWD: C:/Users/Wairangi/AppData/Roaming/FAHClient
01:21:56: OS: Windows 7 Ultimate
01:21:56: OS Arch: AMD64
01:21:56: GPUs: 1
01:21:56: GPU 0: ATI:5 WIMBLEDON XT [Radeon HD 7970M]
01:21:56: CUDA: Not detected
01:21:56:Win32 Service: false
01:21:56:***********************************************************************
01:21:56:<config>
01:21:56: <!-- Folding Slot Configuration -->
01:21:56: <power v='full'/>
01:21:56:
01:21:56: <!-- Folding Slots -->
01:21:56: <slot id='0' type='GPU'/>
01:21:56: <slot id='1' type='CPU'/>
01:21:56:</config>
01:21:56:Trying to access database...
01:21:56:Successfully acquired database lock
01:21:56:Enabled folding slot 00: READY gpu:0:WIMBLEDON XT [Radeon HD 7970M]
01:21:56:Enabled folding slot 01: READY cpu:7
01:21:56:WU00:FS00:Starting
01:21:56:WU00:FS00:Running FahCore: "C:\Program Files (x86)\FAHClient/FAHCoreWrapper.exe" C:/Users/Wairangi/AppData/Roaming/FAHClient/cores/www.stanford.edu/~pande/Win32/AMD64/ATI/R600/Core_17.fah/FahCore_17.exe -dir 00 -suffix 01 -version 703 -lifeline 184 -checkpoint 15 -gpu 0 -gpu-vendor ati
01:21:56:WU00:FS00:Started FahCore on PID 3752
01:21:56:WU00:FS00:Core PID:3860
01:21:56:WU00:FS00:FahCore 0x17 started
01:21:56:WU01:FS01:Starting
01:21:56:WU01:FS01:Running FahCore: "C:\Program Files (x86)\FAHClient/FAHCoreWrapper.exe" C:/Users/Wairangi/AppData/Roaming/FAHClient/cores/www.stanford.edu/~pande/Win32/AMD64/Core_a4.fah/FahCore_a4.exe -dir 01 -suffix 01 -version 703 -lifeline 184 -checkpoint 15 -np 7
01:21:56:WU01:FS01:Started FahCore on PID 5112
01:21:56:WU01:FS01:Core PID:3892
01:21:56:WU01:FS01:FahCore 0xa4 started
01:21:57:WU00:FS00:0x17:*********************** Log Started 2014-02-28T01:21:56Z ***********************
01:21:57:WU00:FS00:0x17:Project: 8900 (Run 651, Clone 3, Gen 106)
01:21:57:WU00:FS00:0x17:Unit: 0x000000a8028c126651a6b77d93be2238
01:21:57:WU00:FS00:0x17:CPU: 0x00000000000000000000000000000000
01:21:57:WU00:FS00:0x17:Machine: 0
01:21:57:WU00:FS00:0x17:Digital signatures verified
01:21:57:WU00:FS00:0x17:Folding@home GPU core17
01:21:57:WU00:FS00:0x17:Version 0.0.52
01:21:57:WU00:FS00:0x17: Found a checkpoint file
01:21:57:WU01:FS01:0xa4:
01:21:57:WU01:FS01:0xa4:*------------------------------*
01:21:57:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Folding@Home Gromacs GB Core
01:21:57:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Version 2.27 (Dec. 15, 2010)
01:21:57:WU01:FS01:0xa4:
01:21:57:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Preparing to commence simulation
01:21:57:WU01:FS01:0xa4:- Looking at optimizations...
01:21:57:WU01:FS01:0xa4:- Files status OK
01:21:57:WU01:FS01:0xa4:- Expanded 875512 -> 1434864 (decompressed 163.8 percent)
01:21:57:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=875512 data_size=1434864, decompressed_data_size=1434864 diff=0
01:21:57:WU01:FS01:0xa4:- Digital signature verified
01:21:57:WU01:FS01:0xa4:
01:21:57:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Project: 9006 (Run 186, Clone 11, Gen 19)
01:21:57:WU01:FS01:0xa4:
01:21:57:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Assembly optimizations on if available.
01:21:57:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Entering M.D.
01:22:00:3:127.0.0.1:New Web connection
01:22:03:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Using Gromacs checkpoints
01:22:03:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Mapping NT from 7 to 7
01:22:03:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Resuming from checkpoint
01:22:03:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Verified 01/wudata_01.log
01:22:03:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Verified 01/wudata_01.trr
01:22:03:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Verified 01/wudata_01.xtc
01:22:03:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Verified 01/wudata_01.edr
01:22:03:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 27695 out of 250000 steps (11%)
01:23:34:9:127.0.0.1:New Web connection
01:23:51:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 30000 out of 250000 steps (12%)
01:25:09:WARNING:Exception: 13:127.0.0.1: Send error: 10054: An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host.
01:25:12:WU00:FS00:0x17:Completed 300000 out of 2500000 steps (12%)
01:25:12:WU00:FS00:0x17:Temperature control disabled. Requirements: single Nvidia GPU, tmax must be < 110 and twait >= 900
01:25:52:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 32500 out of 250000 steps (13%)
01:27:41:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 35000 out of 250000 steps (14%)
01:29:34:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 37500 out of 250000 steps (15%)
01:31:12:WARNING:Exception: 15:127.0.0.1: Send error: 10054: An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host.
01:31:23:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 40000 out of 250000 steps (16%)
01:32:33:WU00:FS00:0x17:Completed 325000 out of 2500000 steps (13%)
01:33:10:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 42500 out of 250000 steps (17%)
01:34:57:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 45000 out of 250000 steps (18%)
01:36:45:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 47500 out of 250000 steps (19%)
01:37:16:WARNING:Exception: 18:127.0.0.1: Send error: 10054: An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host.
01:38:40:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 50000 out of 250000 steps (20%)
01:39:39:WU00:FS00:0x17:Completed 350000 out of 2500000 steps (14%)
01:40:34:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 52500 out of 250000 steps (21%)
01:42:29:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 55000 out of 250000 steps (22%)
01:43:18:WARNING:Exception: 30:127.0.0.1: Send error: 10054: An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host.
01:44:30:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 57500 out of 250000 steps (23%)
01:46:37:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 60000 out of 250000 steps (24%)
01:47:14:WU00:FS00:0x17:Completed 375000 out of 2500000 steps (15%)
01:48:36:FS00:Shutting core down
01:48:36:FS01:Shutting core down
01:48:36:WU00:FS00:0x17:WARNING:Console control signal 1 on PID 3860
01:48:36:WU00:FS00:0x17:Exiting, please wait. . .
01:48:37:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 62500 out of 250000 steps (25%)
01:48:37:WU00:FS00:0x17:Lost lifeline PID 3752, exiting
01:48:37:WU00:FS00:0x17:ERROR:103: Lost client lifeline
01:48:37:WU00:FS00:0x17:Folding@home Core Shutdown: CLIENT_DIED
01:48:37:WU00:FS00:FahCore returned: INTERRUPTED (102 = 0x66)
01:48:39:WU01:FS01:FahCore returned: INTERRUPTED (102 = 0x66)
01:49:20:WARNING:Exception: 41:127.0.0.1: Receive error: 10054: An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host.
01:49:21:WARNING:Exception: 40:127.0.0.1: Send error: 10054: An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host.
01:49:37:Saving configuration to config.xml
01:49:37:<config>
01:49:37: <!-- Folding Slot Configuration -->
01:49:37: <power v='idle'/>
01:49:37:
01:49:37: <!-- Folding Slots -->
01:49:37: <slot id='0' type='GPU'/>
01:49:37: <slot id='1' type='CPU'/>
01:49:37:</config>
01:55:23:WARNING:Exception: 45:127.0.0.1: Receive error: 10054: An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host.
02:01:28:WARNING:Exception: 47:127.0.0.1: Send error: 10054: An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host.
A couple of questions:
1- PPD for the GPU is 15263, CPU 3906. Is that the best I could with a stable set of drivers?
2- Isn't there supposed to be some real-time simulation of the protein folding you could use as a screensaver or something? "View" just shows me a shot of the globe at night with no real-time changes.
Mod Edit: Changed Quote tags to Code for log
Re: Been trying to fold for years..
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 2:42 am
by PantherX
Glad that your system is now folding.
1) Reports have indicated that the Beta Drivers have improved folding performance. However, it is unknown if that is the case with the next WHQL or not.
2) It should either show a live protein or a demo one. However, there is a bug with FahCore_17 which is preventing this (
https://fah.stanford.edu/projects/FAHClient/ticket/1112).
Re: Been trying to fold for years..
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 3:00 am
by NeoCzar
Thanks. Well is ~19k ppd for a machine with my specs average? Below? Above? I assume many have my GPU since AMD GCN cards are good folders. I've seen people with 6970M report 18k ppd on various threads though.