Expected PPD and Current Setup?

jtaylor2005 · Post by **jtaylor2005** » Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:58 pm

Hi All,

I have recently got back into Folding@Home after a long while. My current computer has an I5-3570K @ 3.4Ghz and a Radeon 7790! I am achieving only around 20-30k PPD per day! Is this what is to be expected of this hardware?

If I was to upgrade say the graphics card to something a bit more substantial what would be the best performance per watt kind of card I could get currently and what PPD would I then expect? I don't want to spend toooo much as I don't use the PC for gaming that frequently (although that would be nice if I had a better card). Perhaps around £200.

Cheers!
Jack

Post by **bruce** » Sat Mar 21, 2020 5:34 pm

Welcome back, Jack.

(You didn't say Windows/Linux but this applies to both.)

This past couple of weeks have been extremely trying. The COVAID projects (and some unexpected advertising) have brought many, many new members and totally overloaded our servers. We're frantically upgrading everthing but everything is still not as smooth as I'd like. Please bear with us. That's one good reason for depressed PPDs.

Yes, upgrading the GPU would be a good idea. We've recently found some unexpected troubles with specific AMD GPUs. I can't predict when/if AMD will be able to remedy it quickly (with new drivers or new hardware or ????) so unless you're heart-set on AMD, I'd recommend you get an nVidia GPU ... or simply wait and see what happens.

jtaylor2005 · Post by **jtaylor2005** » Sat Mar 21, 2020 5:39 pm

Thank you!

I don't remember my score ever being amazingly high though. Some people are talking about like 1,000,000 PPD and things like that. I have never even come close to that! :O I am wondering if somethings not setup quite right as well.

Post by **bruce** » Sat Mar 21, 2020 5:42 pm

It's probably safe to assume there's noting wrong with your setup and that it's the server congestion.

Post by **Joe_H** » Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:26 pm

The million point PPD's are going to high end GPUs like the nVIdia 2080 and only if they have a passkey for the bonus.

Nathan_P · Post by **Nathan_P** » Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:56 pm

jtaylor2005 wrote:Hi All,

I have recently got back into Folding@Home after a long while. My current computer has an I5-3570K @ 3.4Ghz and a Radeon 7790! I am achieving only around 20-30k PPD per day! Is this what is to be expected of this hardware?

If I was to upgrade say the graphics card to something a bit more substantial what would be the best performance per watt kind of card I could get currently and what PPD would I then expect? I don't want to spend toooo much as I don't use the PC for gaming that frequently (although that would be nice if I had a better card). Perhaps around £200.

Cheers!
Jack

Hi and welcome back.

For an upgrade to the gpu you could either go used of new. For new overclockers.co.uk have a 1660 at £199.99. for a used ghou there are some 1060 cards at £200. not sure what the ppd of the 1660 is but the 1060 would net you around 350-400k PPD

cfhdev · Post by **cfhdev** » Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:00 pm

Joe_H wrote:The million point PPD's are going to high end GPUs like the nVIdia 2080 and only if they have a passkey for the bonus.

Is there a problem with sending out passkeys? I have tried several times with various emails and names and never receive anything?

JimboPalmer · Post by **JimboPalmer** » Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:51 pm

Welcome to Folding@Home!

20k to 30k PPD is what I would expect with that set up and a Passkey (the servers were overwhelmed, it is better now, keep trying)

If you have thousands to spend at this you can do better, but if you computer suits your needs I would not blow money to improve it.

Examples:
https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd ... pper-3990x $4000 just for the CPU

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/gr ... x-2080-ti/ $1200 (better value if you can call it a value)

alxbelu · Post by **alxbelu** » Sat Mar 21, 2020 10:22 pm

FWIW even my old AMD R9 290x will net a PPD in the range of 300-450k PPD on the Core22 (seen a max of around 460k, but also a low point around 200k PPD with Core21), without overclocking. My laptop with a RTX 2060 mobile (non-super) has less variance and generally nets around 750-820k PPD. I'm guessing that the best PPD/pound is probably a used premium segment card a couple generations old, or a new card of the next-to latest generation.

Post by **Joe_H** » Sat Mar 21, 2020 10:26 pm

cfhdev wrote:
Joe_H wrote:The million point PPD's are going to high end GPUs like the nVIdia 2080 and only if they have a passkey for the bonus.
Is there a problem with sending out passkeys? I have tried several times with various emails and names and never receive anything?

Due to the volume of passkey emails some sites' automatic filters started blocking them as spam. Contacting the admins at various of these email services to get the blocks removed has been an ongoing problem over the past week. Sometimes the person handling the email server have not got any indication a passkey email was blocked, some have just been dumped instead of blocked.

It has gotten a bit better, just recently I read someone's post that they applied and received the email a few hours later through gmail.

cfhdev · Post by **cfhdev** » Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:42 pm

It has been more then 20 Hours.
All domains I have tried are on office365.com
I have checked message trace on each of the recipients and the message never reaches Microsoft. I do however receive the Forum messages.

cfhdev · Post by **cfhdev** » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:24 am

If someone could also confirm that the message comes from the domain foldingathome.org and provide me with the email address?
I will then open a ticket with Microsoft, to see what they come up with.

Thanks.

MrFrizzy · Post by **MrFrizzy** » Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:28 am

Joe_H wrote:The million point PPD's are going to high end GPUs like the nVIdia 2080 and only if they have a passkey for the bonus.

From the AMD side of things, the RX 5700 XT can exceed 1M PPD. I'm sure the 5700 could as well, but might need an overclock. If you check out the spreadsheet in my signature, I have been tracking my projects and PPD.

Juggy · Post by **Juggy** » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:14 am

cfhdev wrote:It has been more then 20 Hours.
All domains I have tried are on office365.com
I have checked message trace on each of the recipients and the message never reaches Microsoft. I do however receive the Forum messages.

I was having issues as well, I also whitelisted foldingathome.org in my O365 tenant which didn't help.

Eventually I had my passkey sent to my work address and it came through. I think there is an issue with the F@H email domain reputation or something like that.

If you're looking to upgrade your GPU the RTX 2060 Super Gaming OC from Gigabyte represents very, very good value and will do over 1 million PPD (mine looks like doing 1.2-1.4). Something else that seems to work well is only using GPU instead of CPU and GPU. May be due to the amount of times the client tries to contact the server.

cfhdev · Post by **cfhdev** » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:24 am

I got the information from a colleague who sent it to a personal gmail email account. I opened a ticket with Microsoft and will post the results.
[Ticket #:19247149]

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