What blacklist is in use here?

whynot · Post by **whynot** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:46 pm

I'm asking off pure curiousity. During Saturday, Sunday, and beginning of Monday I was unable to access forum (I can't say when that had started exactly) -- http://foldingforum.org just didn't exist for me. Upon investigating I'd used some web-proxy service and the forum responded to me (this way).

Thad had led me to conclusion that my ISP had stepped in some shit (again) and ended in some blacklist (again). Surely, I'm not looking for the shit, but what blacklists are in use here?

BTW, a news-server I use (it's gratis, however I've subscribed for services anyway) didn't talk to me within that time eather.

And once yet -- no complaints, curiousity only.

Post by **toTOW** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:57 pm

I guess the first step would be to contact your ISP to ask for an explanation ...

whynot · Post by **whynot** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:32 am

As you can see the issue is already fixed (again). BTW, any conversations with helpdesk of my ISP end with: "Have you installed drivers?"

codysluder · Post by **codysluder** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:43 pm

You need to switch to an ISP that admits when they have a problem and provides real support when they don't.

Post by **toTOW** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:57 pm

And be more stupid than them : answer yes to their questions (is you box plugged in ? did you install drivers ? ...). And don't hesitate to unplug everything so that they can't use remote diagnostics. When they'll have exhausted the option on their list, they should put you in touch with real technicians (level 2)

This is how I usually get in touch with level 2 technicians (I don't even use the modem they provide).

P5-133XL · Post by **P5-133XL** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:39 pm

To explicitly answer your question: There is no blacklist used here.

whynot · Post by **whynot** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:23 am

P5-133XL wrote:To explicitly answer your question: There is no blacklist used here.

I think, I could trust this. I think, that could have happened at level 2

(Honestly, I'd failed to figure out another meaningful IP in this forum hoster's range. (Does WHOIS maintain blacklists too?) Maybe next time.)

whynot · Post by **whynot** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:37 am

toTOW wrote: This is how I usually get in touch with level 2 technicians (I don't even use the modem they provide).

I doubt there's level 2 at all. My current ISP (transition in progress) names 3 nameservers. While 2 of them sometime ping but are deaf at port 53, the 3rd one doesn't have IP at all.

That's my 3rd ISP -- they all are different, but they are crap anyway. And I don't wait anything better from 4th. It will be just different crap (it's already, I see no signs of billing page reachable with browser; the only option I see is USSD and modem doesn't want to colaborate either).

Post by **toTOW** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 12:22 pm

Did you consider using OpenDNS instead of those provided by your ISP : http://www.opendns.com/ ?

Slash_2CPU · Post by **Slash_2CPU** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 12:42 pm

codysluder wrote:You need to switch to an ISP that admits when they have a problem and provides real support when they don't.

We all do, but there isn't one.

whynot · Post by **whynot** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 12:43 pm

toTOW wrote:Did you consider using OpenDNS instead of those provided by your ISP : http://www.opendns.com/ ?

Once I've LARTed a responce out of comp.os.linux.networking that in such circumstances I can bravely go for roots. pdnsd (that's my caching nameserver) can treat roots appropriately. Thus a problem is 1/2-hour for configuration. Maybe after transition; maybe not.

P5-133XL · Post by **P5-133XL** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 12:44 pm

Since you are have had problems with 3 different ISP's, perhaps it is not your ISP's that is the problem. Does your govt. (Ukraine) filter internet traffic? I've tried using opendns and it works fine as a DNS server but that will not necessarily help if your govt. is filtering the internet traffic.

whynot · Post by **whynot** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 1:24 pm

P5-133XL wrote:Since you are have had problems with 3 different ISP's, perhaps it is not your ISP's that is the problem.

That's within 7 years

P5-133XL wrote: Does your govt. (Ukraine) filter internet traffic? I've tried using opendns and it works fine as a DNS server but that will not necessarily help if your govt. is filtering the internet traffic.

Definetely not. I've told already I'd gave a chance to some http-proxy (tries to earn from local pricing paradoxes; I've just checked it's IP is local) -- it connected successfuly. I've inspected team's forum -- no-one had such issue; but they are on ethernet or TV-cable. Maybe if that would have happened outside of week-end then I wouldn't even notice.

To the point. They would. If that would give somebody some money in (his or her, but its) pocket. Everybody get used to it. While here are gas-stations, markets, traffic etc they would stay off internet. Hopefully long enough.

And yet to the point. I monitor at least one quite reliable (imho) source where that would be made public. I beware.

Post by **toTOW** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:21 pm

I'm pretty sure that internet filtering is not the problem here ... I've seen many P2P services (emule servers or bittorrent trackers) moving to Ukraine because of their "flexibility" in this domain

whynot · Post by **whynot** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:27 am

It is (was?) not about domains. It's about ISPs. The next time (I'm sure there'll be the next time) I'd check my newsfeed's behaviour first.

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