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- Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:21 pm
- Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
- Topic: Unbalanced Scoring
- Replies: 150
- Views: 32521
Re: Unbalanced Scoring
Don't bother. Pande only cares about GPU clients.
- Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:13 pm
- Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
- Topic: Unbalanced Scoring
- Replies: 150
- Views: 32521
Re: Unbalanced Scoring
But you make no real statements about how your improved time keeping system would work. You make no references to any successful model or demonstration case of your concept. You show no benefits. You cannot name a single time in the history of the earth, where rewarding people for showing up, impro...
- Sun Aug 10, 2008 7:24 pm
- Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
- Topic: Unbalanced Scoring
- Replies: 150
- Views: 32521
Re: Unbalanced Scoring
For once I also have to agree with 7im, there is really no point in continuing the discussion with people who do not have any intention of listening. I think you are not listening. The point system as it stands furthers your objectives and as such, you are biased to my point of view. Holy hand gren...
- Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:22 am
- Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
- Topic: Unbalanced Scoring
- Replies: 150
- Views: 32521
Re: Unbalanced Scoring
They attract bonus points for their 'betaness' and lack of maturity (hence need a large amount of monitoring and hand holding by the donator), and also provide a massive computational boost to the project. Bonus points are just another flaw in the system. I know, for a fact, that in most cases, 8 a...
- Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:49 am
- Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
- Topic: Unbalanced Scoring
- Replies: 150
- Views: 32521
Re: Unbalanced Scoring
Not that I wish to open the Carbon-footprint discussion either, but it would see slower machines doing less science per unit of electricity, therefore lowering efficiencies. I'd rather a GPU chewing twice the power for 6 times the scientific output than two CPU's running with the same amount of ele...
- Sat Aug 09, 2008 4:47 am
- Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
- Topic: Unbalanced Scoring
- Replies: 150
- Views: 32521
Re: Unbalanced Scoring
Yet you don't think faster and better hardware should get more points? I said it before and I'll say it again: I really don't care about points--I care about donated time. The world is not "fair" in the sense that we always get what we wish. My requests are not unreasonable. If fully impl...
- Sat Aug 09, 2008 4:13 am
- Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
- Topic: Unbalanced Scoring
- Replies: 150
- Views: 32521
Re: Unbalanced Scoring
Sure, I'm folding with my computer today. But will I tomorrow? Maybe tomorrow I'm going on vacation, and I'm unplugging my computer. Or maybe I'm folding on a laptop, and I'm away from a wall socket. Or maybe my computer crashes. That is an issue with donated time no matter what. If you are intelli...
- Sat Aug 09, 2008 4:01 am
- Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
- Topic: Unbalanced Scoring
- Replies: 150
- Views: 32521
Re: Unbalanced Scoring
The servers are not all knowing neural nets, knowing when you're sleeping and awake. If they had that kind of computing power, why would they even need a DC project? Your arguments are just hypothetical wishes, LEARN TO DEAL WITH REALITY! Embrace the truth and the truth will set you free from your ...
- Sat Aug 09, 2008 3:03 am
- Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
- Topic: Unbalanced Scoring
- Replies: 150
- Views: 32521
Re: Unbalanced Scoring
My answer is that there are cases where something is worse than nothing. A 386 is a good example, because it can't complete the WUs on time. I'm telling you that it isn't the contributors fault. Contributors only make hardware available. They very little say in how it is used. It might be nice if w...
- Sat Aug 09, 2008 1:44 am
- Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
- Topic: Unbalanced Scoring
- Replies: 150
- Views: 32521
Re: Unbalanced Scoring
In a sense this is true. Pandegroup has said in the past that if a client computer cannot reliably make the "preferred" (first) deadline, then it shouldn't be used for folding. Computers that take too long to fold hold up the next person in line. Each successive WU from the run folds the ...
- Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:58 pm
- Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
- Topic: Unbalanced Scoring
- Replies: 150
- Views: 32521
Re: Unbalanced Scoring
There is no great good in encouraging people to run their 386 machines, (not one, not a million),they are just too slow! So is something not better than nothing? This might go against your anti-elitist feeling, but at some point you have to realize that the amount of benefit you are generating is n...
- Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:35 pm
- Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
- Topic: Unbalanced Scoring
- Replies: 150
- Views: 32521
Re: Unbalanced Scoring
I don't think that's exactly true. Yeah, a lot of people here run computers that do nothing but fold. But that's not the primary problem here. The fundamental disagreement is that you seem to think the final arbiter of a person's worth to FAH is the time they're willing to put into the program. Mos...
- Fri Aug 08, 2008 8:36 pm
- Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
- Topic: Unbalanced Scoring
- Replies: 150
- Views: 32521
Re: Unbalanced Scoring
I hate to point out the obvious, but you say you're willing to only donate your spare clocks. Run the client when you are not actively using the computer and you will be making a great donation. One can only play games so many hours per day. Also, while I don't have a NV card, I do think they have ...
- Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:58 pm
- Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
- Topic: Unbalanced Scoring
- Replies: 150
- Views: 32521
Re: Unbalanced Scoring
Then what? BOINC may be the same thing, yeah. If it is, I'll probably quit donating my spare clocks altogether. I'll probably rededicate the server to compiling maps again and call that the end of my science days. XD Put a $100 NV 9600 GSO card on a couple of those machines and you will be cranking...
- Fri Aug 08, 2008 6:11 pm
- Forum: Discussions of General-FAH topics
- Topic: Unbalanced Scoring
- Replies: 150
- Views: 32521
Re: Unbalanced Scoring
Why the sudden importance now? The PS3 client has had the same affect for almost the last 2 years! The GPU is now running at 4 X the PS3, but the PS3 generated 5X the CPU for something like 2 years. Your arguments did not make sense before, and they don't now. I brought it up now because I saw 11 p...